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March 28 Denying the Hollocaust?!The quote in my signature line is from Elizabeth Ten Boom - she died in a concentration camp - as a Christian in Holland who helped the Jewish people escape the nazi's - she did NOT give them up to save her life, and lost hers in Ravensbrook. If you get the chance, see the movie or read the book based on her families story - 'The Hiding Place'. Also, see these websites for more @: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsie_ten_Boom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWg47sLwlHk & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VdjOYGAQSg (Note; this is mainly an audio interview with Corrie Ten Boom - Elizabeth's sister, listen to what she says about 'suffering for Christ'. This really hit me - I have said also, 'Jesus, I don't know if I can suffer like this for you?!' Her fathers' answer is beautifully wise! Also, see this video - but, more importantly - read the comments left below it. If this doesn't put the fear of God in you, I don't know what will. This proves my gut feeling - another, more terrible holocaust is just around the corner. People out there actually justify it by their denial! See @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFObK1B68qE&NR=1 Then, see this video - full of 'need to know' facts @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDVaJXmCIjk&feature=related Steph <>< "There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still." Elizabeth Ten Boom August 16 The GREAT Atheist debate '08 - Noble vs. Positive AtheismThis is a response to www.positiveatheism.org website which claims that Abraham Lincoln was an atheist 'at times'
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Stephanie R Noble Dear Sir/Madame; "First, is it safe to assume that you believe everything that every Letter to Eliza Gurney Executive Mansion, My esteemed friend. Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:17:27 -0700 Cliff Walker _______________________________________________________
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Stephanie Noble Do you answer questions, or - do you just reply with confusing rhetoric?
My question was regarding that you refer to 'all of Lincolns' private On Thurs, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:52 am, Cliff Walker wrote –
I am happy to answer honest questions. Dishonest questions (trick questions; baiting attempts; grilling us about your own misquotes of our statements; etc) get sent down to the proverbial null terminal without explanation. Since you clearly know what you are doing, to go over it and explain to you what you already know would be pedantic.
Good bye. *This is obviously a very sarcastic reply to myself from Mr. Walker & please note: the meaning of the word, ‘Pedantic’: one who makes a show of knowledge - in other words, Mr. Walker admits that he is an arrogant ‘intellectual’ – who, by the way - is avoiding the true question I posted originally on his site - positiveatheism.org. By the way, in all honesty – I did not make ANY changes to Mr. Walkers’ verbiage which I copied/pasted, other than to bold font & underline the crux of my question in his verbiage, the word ‘all’ – what would be my motivation? I simply wanted to know why the letter from Lincoln to Eliza Gurney (see all below), is not on their site – as Mr. Walker suggests to Ms. Judith Prince in her post – 'see all of Lincolns’ personal letters'.. Very interesting, I am urging that we (all TRUE Christians', that is) – pray for Mr. Walker that he comes to find TRUE knowledge that comes from the Almighty God – and HIS Son, Jesus Christ.
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My answer emailed to Mr. Cliff Walker –08/21/08:
Thank you again Mr. Walker for taking the time to respond to my post / question, it is greatly appreciated. I respect your opinions and information, I also realize that time is indeed a precious commodity. However, I still do not understand how I was dishonest, nor do I see where my question was answered? I also do not find where I misquoted your post, as I truly ‘copied/pasted’ it directly from your site - your reply to Ms. Prince? Indeed, my question was in reference to the fact that I had searched your site and did not find the letter from Eliza Gurney that I referred to.
Respectfully, Stephanie R. Noble
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:18:54 -0700 Okay, I'll play the game, just this once: I did not emphasize the word *all.* (This was easy to see because when using Roman type, it is incorrect to use the underscore or the bold for emphasis: you used both.) That emphasis changed the entire meaning of the sentence. And it was this new, incorrect meaning of the word *all* that you quizzed me on. As I wrote it (and as its context demands), the word *all* is Cliff Walker (By the way - for those who aren't familiar, the meaning of the word concatenate: In computer programming, concatenation is the operation of joining two character strings end to end. For example, the strings "foo" and "bar" may be concatenated to give "foobar". In programming languages, string concatenation is a binary operation usually accomplished by putting a concatenation operator between two strings (operands). – Which I most CERTAINLY DID NOT do – as Mr. Walker insinuates above. Again, I copied and pasted his verbiage exactly – I only underlined and emboldened the word ‘all’ to get to the crux of my question – which Mr. Walker NEVER answered…)
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Stephanie Noble Changed their meaning? - In your eyes perhaps... ______________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:18:10 -0700 Changed their meaning? - In your eyes perhaps... It's often said that because (Again, where was my dishonesty??? I would like to ask the same of Mr. Walker, in fact – I would add to that question – his use of deception by intellectual terminology, - to be exact).
From: Stephanie Noble Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:58 PM
To: Positive Atheism Subject: RE: 'Don't Promote Lincoln as an Atheist - Judith Prince' - Question
It's funny how you are the only one who believes your word is final... *Note: This is the final email correspondence with Mr. Walker – self proclaimed atheist. Let us all Pray that God’s TRUTH finds Mr. Walker and he finds God as Creator of the universe and MASTER of his life! P.S. Don’t you just love the way he ends his emails with the most absurd statement by an obvious evolutionist – which is a theory only that has NOT been proven, - it takes more FAITH to be an atheist/evolutionist, than to believe in a CREATOR – and for anyone who doubts that see the following websites & research in more areas for yourself; http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/creation-vs-evolution-video.htm http://www.creation-evidence.com/ http://www.allaboutcreation.org/is-god-a-delusion-video.htm http://www.allaboutcreation.org/existence-of-god-video.htm
May 29 The Answer...
I believe that God changes people and God changes things. I pray for all who read this. For each and every family member in their households. I pray for peace, love and joy in their homes that they are out of debt and all their needs are met. I pray that every eye that reads this knows there is no problem, circumstance, or situation greater than God. Every battle is in HIS hands for HIM to fight. I pray that these words be received into the hearts of every eye that sees them and every mouth that confesses them willingly. This is my prayer. In Jesus' Name, Amen.
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